Wednesday, May 3, 2023

I Am Getting Near The End Of My Years-Long Conversation With A Christian Trump Cultist Friend Who Now Throws Herself -- Passionately -- Into The Embrace Of Beelzebub


If you cannot see the images above (and below), please click on the corresponding links.

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Dear Karen,

I know your world is collapsing around you.

At every turn, Trump is being revealed as a Bad Actor - politically and morally.

And so, it is not surprising that you now forthrightly refuse to participate in dialogue so that your House of Cards doesn't collapse.

Notably, you justify your refusal by alleging that I am "cynical," and "critical of anyone who disagrees with my political point of view."

Not so.

I call the shots as I see them.

For example...

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You say, "How sad that anyone who has been raised in this land of the brave and home of the free could ever fall for the kind of lies millions had who ended up fleeing the most evil and oppressive "governments" on earth throughout the centuries they wanted only to find the kind of freedom to do good without fear of punishment anyone who has known our Father in Heaven for real has from the foundation of Creation."

The Founding Fathers - and everyone who fought to declare independence from England - believed in the fundamental necessity of compromise to and and every democratic process. 

The Founding Fathers were intellectually curious people, parsecs removed from  your blind belief that is morally risky and a spiritual flaw to participate in debate.

The Founding Fathers welcomed debate. 

The Founding Fathers encouraged debate.

If memory serves, you have never joined me in debate, despite my passion for understanding history and presenting arguments that are based on history, not on theological premises.

Here is a brief, clear article outlining the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Debate: https://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-articles-of-confederation/the-great-debate/

As for your belief that you "know the Real God" and are therefore (apparently) infallible and don't need to discuss, debate and argue (because God is on your side and you understand His Will and His Plan "from the inside out," you do not KNOW, no matter how much it may feel like you know.

Rather than knowing, you have faith.

Given the nature of a priori premises, faith is what we all have - not absolute certainty.

Faith is faith. And knowledge is knowledge.

And in matters of religion we are all hemmed in by our beliefs, our credos, our acts of faith. 

This is how it is.

As for The Founding Fathers themselves, they were neither Christian absolutists, nor pontificating Christian know-it-alls.

Rather, they were -- almost to a man -- Deists which is a very broadminded view of Christianity.


It is my view that you try to resolve these massive conflicts by painting anyone who is not immovably ensconced in your "Christian" Camp as demonstrably wrong (and almost certainly evil).

And the simplest way to achieve your goal of being "Saved!" while proclaiming the damnation of "the others" is to represent the others -- the "infidels," the "unbelievers" as "baby killers" while it remains an entirely open debate whether it is those who support abortion - or those who oppose abortion - who actually contribute to the greater number of abortions in these "United" States.

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To keep  your "black-and-white," grossly-oversimplified "world" intact and unchallenged, you have chosen to spurn debate, just as you have spurned deeply-contextualized learning at least since David ran for School Board.

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It is possible to learn things -- important things -- even important things about religion and the life of the spirit - without clipping your wings by misunderstanding St. Paul's comment that "The wisdom of the world is folly before God." The wisdom of the world to which Paul refers is precisely what Donald Trump embodies - acquisitiveness and pussy-grabbing hedonism.


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I understand that you need to lie to yourself, but I will not let you go Scot-free as you try to impose the kind of theological orthodoxy that The Founding Fathers (and other colonists) were trying desperately to escape from.

You may think God is on your side.

You may believe God is on your side.

But you cannot prove that God is on your side.

And this lack of proof is precisely why The Founding Fathers fought for open debate, choosing to wage the Revolution to break free of the kind of religious presumption that you and Trump Cult embody - and seek to enforce.

Don't think that presumption and unfailing proclamations of oppressive faith will put you in good stead at The Pearly Gates.

I hope you escape the trap you've set for yourself.

It's ingenious and thorough.

But it's a trap.

And you are stuck in it.

Wishing you -- and your loved ones -- all good things.

Alan

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On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 5:37 PM KK wrote:

Unfortunately knowing how cynical and critical you are of anyone who dares disagree with your political point of view I find this to be a waste of time
as it is most likely disinformation.  I think it's called "propaganda" but to me it's still the same old same old "lies" people use to enslave the weakest among
us while claiming themselves to be "Liberators" 
How sad that anyone who has been raised in this land of the brave and home of the free could ever fall for the kind of lies millions had who ended up fleeing
the most evil and oppressive "governments" on earth throughout the centuries they wanted only to find the kind of freedom to do good without fear of punishment
anyone who has known our Father in Heaven for real has from the foundation of Creation.
I pray you will humble yourself to believe and receive the gospel of the Only True Messiah Who came to free us FROM sin not TO sin.
If you ever get that message please let me know.  I am praying from my heart you will..
for the sake of your eternal soul. 
God is greater than any man in any time.
Jesus Christ is the SON He chose to raise up over every other name to be glorified while glorifying HIM as the only perfect man who ever walked
this Earth.
Lord have mercy on us all.


On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:24 PM Alan Archibald <alanarchibaldo@gmail.com> wrote:

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