William P. Archibald and Gerald J. Archibald
on the shore of Seneca Lake and niece Cara's wedding to Tim
Dear Ger,
Mother: Jane
Marriage 1 Maria GILLIGAN b: 1850 in Kings County, Ireland (N.B. Apparently, when our great, great uncle Daniel Leyden arrived in Australia, he actually discovered Gilligan's Island.)
- Married: 1869 in Braidwood, NSW 3
- Maria LEYDEN b: 1870 in Braidwood, NSW
- Jane LEYDEN b: 1872 in Braidwood, NSW
- James LEYDEN b: 1874 in Braidwood, NSW
- Edward LEYDEN b: 1881 in Braidwood, NSW
- Angela Lucy LEYDEN b: 1888 in Araluen, NSW
- John LEYDEN
- William LEYDEN b: Oct 1883
"It is an ill wind that blows nobody good."—So, in "3 King Henry VI." (ii. 5), we read—
And in "2 Henry IV." (v. 3), when Falstaff asks Pistol "What wind blew you hither?" the latter replies—
Dear Bill,
I am delighted to receive your email.
It is a trove of information. Profuse thanks.
I had no idea we knew the place of Bill's passing. (Or if I knew, I'd forgotten.)
Nor did I ever notice that he died on St. Patrick's day. (Do you know the story of St. Patrick's Brigade, also known as los San Patricios? It's a fascinating story - one of two I would like to render dramatically.
"For Americans of the generation who fought the
Mexican-American War, the San
Patricios were considered
traitors. For Mexicans of that generation, and generations to come, the San Patricios were heroes who
came to the aid of fellow Catholics in need." (What a great vehicle to
probe the nature of treason!) http://en.wikipedia.
I may have a copy of Bill's records from the National Archive and will look for them. Should I find them, what is your snail mail address?
Have you done any dabbling in online genealogy? With a friend's help, I recently accessed photocopies of federal census records listing names, ages, countries-of-origin and intra-household relationships of several previous generations of Archibald's. I look forward to doing more such research and -- when I get round to it -- will loop you in.
In the meantime, I encourage you to "have at it."
Here's a clue... Gramma, Grampa and I dined with Cheryl and James Bentley when they were here in central North Carolina in the mid-90s - touring the U.S. by bus and passing through Durham at the same time Gramma and Grampa were en route to Florida.
At that time, Cheryl put us in touch with relatives who reside in Raleigh, and within days, Mom, Dad and I visited them. These distant relatives were in possession of a family tree that tracked the (Dutch-born) Leyden's back to 1610. (I can't believe I didn't follow-up on our visit before everything got muddled by time. There's a chance I can locate their name and address on an old PC I might fire up...)
If you contact Cheryl, I imagine we can "appropriate" that Leyden family tree. (Should it prove useful, Cheryl's husband James owned an automobile agency.)
Dear Janet,
Here's the Bentley information.
James and Cheryl Bentley
23 Mac Auley St.
North Rockhampton
Queensland, Australia 4701
Telephone: 1-61-2-079-288570
Cheryl (Leyden) Bentley is the descendant of Daniel Leyden who sailed to Australia with his sister Honora Leyden -- our great-great-grandmother from Feakle, County Clare, Ireland.
Upon arrival in Sydney, Daniel and Honora lived with a Presbyterian minister.
For unknown reasons, Honora decided to return to Ireland by herself (while Daniel took up permanent residence in Australia).
Back in Ireland -- after sailing 25,000 miles; half of it "on her own" -- Honora proceeded to America
One of the Archibald ancestors -- I think it was John Archbold - sailed from Ireland to Montrael but did not reside in Canada for any period of time before proceeding to Rush, New York c. 1852.
The original Leyden who perches on a branch of our (known) family tree was a mercenary soldier from Holland -- seemingly from the city of Leyden -- who decided to settle out, presumably as a farmer, in County Clare once his fighting days were over.
The year 1610 is associated with the "original" Leyden although I do not know if this year denotes his birthdate or perhaps the year he settled/arrived in Ireland.
Love
Alan
On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Bill Archibald wrote:
Good to hear from you Uncle Alan! Sorry for the delay in
getting back to you.
Anyhow, this definitely reminds me that we should do more research on this
subject, as most of my research on Uncle Bill's time in the Civil War was
done pre-internet. I remember going to the Rundel Library with
Grandpa and looking at the records of all Rochester men in the
Civil War (of which an excerpt is linked to below) to attempt
to determine some of Bill's battle history. After a brief search of the
internet, I came across much more information than we ever had access to when
we first performed this research.
One of the interesting things about Bill's war service is that he served
twice. His first service was with the 108th New York from July 1862
until December 1862.
108th New York, Co. D: July 29, 1862 to discharge due to disability
December 8, 1862
http://dmna.state.ny.us/
During this time, he would have fought at Antietam. He narrowly missed
the battle of Fredricksburg which occurred December 11 - 15 of 1862.
After his discharge, he did not fight again until October of 1863. Thus,
he would not have fought at Gettysburg as previously believed.
Additionally, this is most likely when his brother James may have paid him to
take his place in the war, as the Union draft was instituted in the summer of
1863. I cannot determine if the 1st NY Veteran's Cavalry was entirely
volunteer or not.
1st NY Veteran's Cavalry, Co. M: October 21, 1863 to his death March 17, 1864
1st NY Veteran's Cavalry Record: http://dmna.state.ny.
Where he was wounded: Cabletown, VA: http://dmna.state.ny.us/
Brief description of the Kabletown, VA battle: On March 10 , Lt. Dolly
Richards led between 50-60 Confederate raiders into the Shenandoah valley.
There, they attacked a Union picket post of the 1st New York Cavalry. A
detachment of 25 men of the New York Cavalry, commanded by Maj. Jerry A.
Sullivan, were ordered to pursue the Confederates.
Near Kabletown, the Confederates turned around and attacked the Federals. After
Sullivan was killed, the Federal detachment retreated back to their lines.
Note that his headstone properly lists him as a member of the 1st New York
Cavalry Regiment, Co. M, however, the Monroe County record of his death still
shows him as a member of the 108th New York Infantry.
Monroe County Record of his death: http://www.libraryweb.
I also remember you having filed a FOIA/National Archive search request for
Bill's records. I do not know where these records ended up, but they are
possibly in the mobile down in Florida, as that is where I remember discussing
them with you.
Anyhow, would be happy to discuss at any point. I really enjoyed your NPR
story competition entry.
Also, I very much enjoy the emails that have come across with your takes on the
political environment and current events. I've got a slightly less gloomy
look at world politics, although it is clear that America will have to
transition to her new role as a player at the world political table rather than
the dictator. I imagine we will be able to negotiate this change similar
to how Great Britain went from being the dominant world power to their current
role.
See you later,
Bill
Dear Bill,
The 1910 Census information for Daisy E Noll at the bottom of this page is from the Mormon website - www.familysearch.org
Grandmother Daisy (nee Green)
Noll -- "Mum" as we always called her -- was my second database
inquiry at Family Search, and my first "hit." https://www.familysearch.org/
Using Family Search, I also had luck with the 1892 Census
records for Archibald's living in Rush, New York. A photocopy of that census
page is located at https://www.familysearch.
In the 1892 Census ledger, George (49) and Honora (44) are listed as having nine children living with them.
In descending order of age these children were Walter (20), William (19), Alice (19), George (18), Oliver (15), Ellen (11), Robert (10), Lillie (9) and Sarah (7).
Although Alice follows George in the census taker's handwritten enumeration, she is listed as having the same age as William. This 19 year old William must be William Wellington's father, William Arthur, who - to my knowledge - was not a twin as suggested by sister Alice having the same age.
We can deduce from the 1892 Census that William Arthur was born in 1873 - give or take a year.
I should locate the genealogy given to my Dad c. 1955 by Cunard Shipping Line steward, Dennis Reid, but for now I'll work from (faulty) memory.
If William Arthur was born in 1873, then he would have been 31 at the time of the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904.
While returning from the Fair with brother George, their train wrecked outside Peoria, Illinois, resulting in a "sickbed" romance with his eventual wife, Mary Agnes Sweeney, whose family had offered to nurse one of the many injured passengers back to health. (As my Dad, William Wellington, told the story -- or, at least, as I remember the telling -- his Dad, William Arthur, broke a leg in the train wreck and walked with a limp forevermore. Dad also reported that there was tremendous carnage in their coach and that when George grew conscious, he could not find brother William, who was eventually located atop the overturned locomotive. You may already know "the story of the peas" but if not, here goes... William and brother George, one year his junior, were "paired off" as bachelor farmers working the same rather unproductive land. The year of the Fair, or perhaps the year before, William and George decided to grow mostly green beans at a time when most other area farmers chose, seemingly by the luck of the draw, to grow very few. It was their only bumper crop. Combined with the relative scarcity of beans in the local marketplace, William and George made a bundle, and being "confirmed bachelors" decided to visit the Fair.)
Elsewhere in the 1892 census report for Monroe county, another Archibald household was comprised of 82 year old John Archibald and 84 year old Alice Archibald. These were presumably George's parents - William Arthur's grandparents.
Apparently, I'm incorrect in my memory that Honora married John after sailing back to Ireland from Australia where Honora's brother, Daniel - her traveling companion on the outbound leg from Ireland - decided to stay in Sydney. Instead of my mistaken memory, John and Alice were married and their daughter George married Honora.
When Honora and Daniel Leyden arrived in Australia, they initially resided with a Presbyterian minister. A living descendant of Daniel's is Cheryl Bentley. The last address I have for Cheryl is:
James and Cheryl Bentley
23 Mac Auley St.
North Rockhampton
Queensland, Australia 4701
1-61-2-079-288570
Notably, the four oldest Archibalds -- John, Alice, George and Honora -- were all born in Ireland.
Honora Leyden Archibald was born in the town of Feakle, County Clare, in 1848.
It is of some interest to note that George Archibald, Honora's husband (not to be confused with their son George) listed his profession as "farmer," whereas John Archbold/Archibald (apparently born in Ireland in 1810) seems to have listed his profession as "laborer." (Part of the word is lost where the page folds into the ledger spine.)
There seems to be some evidence that John Archibald was born John Archbold. According to Dad a fairly large number of "Archbolds" either changed their name to Archibald, or -- what I think more likely -- had their surname changed by immigration officials. (Alan here, reviewing this 2010 document in 2012. I now think it more likely that the original spelling was Archbold.)
We know for fact that John Archibald/Archbold entered the New World with landfall in Montreal. (I seem to recall that Dennis Reid's genealogy lists John's arrival in 1852.) (Alan continuing his review in 2012. I am now unclear whether John and Allace Archbold arrived by way of Montreal or if Honora did. I am sorry to report that I don't recall if Honora came to America already married or single. Trying to put it together now -- and without Dennis Reid's family tree in hand -- I'm thinking George was John and Alice's child and that Honora came to America to marry George whom she may have known as a girl in Ireland. As I recall the Archbolds' place of origin is a mystery, with Dennis Reid listing a place name like Common or Commyn which can not be located on Irish maps.)
We have no reason to believe that John stayed in Montreal, but rather it seems likely that he proceeded to Rush where other Irish kin had already put down roots.
Pax
Alan
PS If I am passing along bad information, please set the record straight. Thanks.
· 1910 United States Census Record for Daisy E Green
Name: |
Daisy E Green |
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Birthplace: |
England |
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Relationship to Head of Household: |
Daughter |
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Residence: |
Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York |
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Marital Status: |
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Race : |
White |
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Gender: |
Female |
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Immigration Year: |
1904 |
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Father's Birthplace: |
England |
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Mother's Birthplace: |
England |
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Family Number: |
143 |
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Page Number: |
8 |
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Household |
Gender |
Age |
Parent |
M |
40y |
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Parent |
F |
35y |
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M |
15y |
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Daisy E Green |
F |
13y |
F |
9y |
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M |
7y |
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F |
6y |
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M |
4y |
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F |
1y 1m |
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