Sunday, February 21, 2021

"Genealogy: Archibald-Leyden-Sweeney Family History"









William P. Archibald and Gerald J. Archibald

on the shore of Seneca Lake and niece Cara's wedding to Tim


Dear Ger,

If you missed this, I think it will be of considerable genealogical interest.

BTW... I have yet to sign up for Ancestry.com's online service, and therefore the research mentioned below has not yet taken place. This would be a good project for Oaxaca... perhaps this coming winter.

I will now blog all this information at "News From Barbaria" to make sure that it is archived in place where all Archibalds can access it. I will title the blog post "Genealogy: Archibald-Leyden-Sweeney Family History"

Greetings,

I thought I had sent a copy of the following email but just found a copy in my "drafts" which makes me think I never sent it. 

Since I wrote the email appended below, I have learned a number of family facts through a friend's borrowed Ancestry.com account in Chautauqua, August of this year.

Honora (Leyden) Archibald -- Dad's grandmother -- was born in the 1830s to parents Patrick and Jane Leyden. Patrick and Jane are almost certainly buried in the Feakle cemetery although I don't think Mom, Dad and I knew enough to locate their plots when we were there in 1988 (?).

Here's more info on Honora's brother Daniel who lived out his life in Australia, whereas Honora returned to Ireland from Australia and than proceeded to America. I do not know if Honora married George Archbold in Ireland or in New York. I think it more likely they married here since George was the son of John who migrated to the States via Montreal, presumbably before son George was old enough to marry. 

The following link lists Honora's younger brother Daniel as having been born in 1841, Feakle, Clare, Ireland. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropioneers&id=I272036#s1

Daniel and Honora's parents were:

Father: Patrick LEYDEN 
Mother: Jane

Marriage 1 Maria GILLIGAN b: 1850 in Kings County, Ireland  (N.B. Apparently, when our great, great uncle Daniel Leyden arrived in Australia, he actually discovered Gilligan's Island.)
  • Married: 1869 in Braidwood, NSW 3
Children
  1. Has No Children Maria LEYDEN b: 1870 in Braidwood, NSW
  2. Has No Children Jane LEYDEN b: 1872 in Braidwood, NSW
  3. Has Children James LEYDEN b: 1874 in Braidwood, NSW
  4. Has No Children Edward LEYDEN b: 1881 in Braidwood, NSW
  5. Has No Children Angela Lucy LEYDEN b: 1888 in Araluen, NSW
  6. Has No Children John LEYDEN
  7. Has No Children William LEYDEN b: Oct 1883
Daniel died 31 Mar 1930 in Marrickville, NSW 1 2

I also learned the name of the ship -- I think it was the Sandingham -- on which Honora and Daniel set sail from Ireland, landing in New South Wales, Australia - Sydney as I recall. (The ship's manifest is posted online with exact dates of departure and arrival.) 

I also learned a number of things about the Sweeney side of the family. 

Until I borrowed Diane's Ancestry.com account in Chautauqua, all I knew about the Sweeney's was that they were a big family from Peoria, Illinois, with a disproportionate number of nuns and priests including one priest (whom I remember looking rather like Dad... same thick black hair) who was Superintendent of Catholic Schools for the Peoria Diocese. (That 8X10 photo - portraying about a dozen adults - "half "of them nuns and priests) should still exist although I did not come across it while doing photo digitization at Ger and Betsy's home earlier this year.)

Using Diane's Ancestry account in Chautauqua, I "immediately" traced the Sweeney's back to 1620, locating what seemed to be an online portrait of that progenitor. If, indeed, that portrait was a 17th century ancestor, the Sweeney family must have been fairly wealthy back then.

In the coming New Year it is my firm intention to begin the year-long membership that Janet generously gave me last Christmas. 

I expect to make significant  headway and at some point intersect with some relative who has taken some part of the family "way" back.  

During my year-long subscription period, I intend to inscribe everything we know (and everything I will learn) about our family tree -- including all of Cunard Shipping Lines' steward, Dennis Reid's pre-1955 work -- onto an online genealogical template.

More to come!

Merry Christmas!

Love

Alan

Greetings,

Friend Tarantino forwarded an email from his relative, Frank Bellanti, who does genealogical research, and the contents of that email gave me the idea to google, Leyden, Feakle, County Clare, Ireland.


Daniel is the younger brother of Honora Leyden who married George Archbold (as the Rush Archibalds are called in the earliest records).

Honora and Daniel sailed to Australia together, perhaps while Daniel was still a boy.

Upon arrival, they lodged with a Presbyterian minister in Sydney.

At some point, Honora sailed back to Ireland on her own. (This journey - in sailing ship - was more than halfway around the world.)

Daniel remained in Australia, where the record (linked above) details his marriage and offspring. (Daniel's descendant, Cheryl (Cherryl?) Leyden 

The initials NSW (which occur repeatedly in Daniel's Australian record) stand for New South Wales.


It was Honora and George (or the next older generation John and Allace/Alice Archbold) who entered the United States by The Port of Montreal, proceeding very soon after to Rush, New York. I will be able to sort at least some of this out when I track down Dad's genealogy records which I have here in Hillsborough.) 

Presumably George and Honora settled in Rush because John and Allace had established a "beachhead" there. (12-21-13 As I think I've already indicated, I'm not sure George and Honora married in Ireland, being currently inclined to think that they married in upstate New York.)

I wish I knew more.

In any event, I am heartened by this information.

***

The following results are from the 1880 U.S. Decennial Census. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1880_United_States_Census

John Archbold, is the Archibalds' first known Irish ancestor to immigrate to Rush, New York. John was born 1811 and was married to Allace/Alice. (Allace may have been a Doyle. I can track this down.): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-R6T   

Allace (Alice) Archbold, (B: 1809 in Ireland) was John Archbold's wife: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-R6Y

John and Alice were my great, great grandparents. 

William Wellington's paternal aunts and uncles were Walter, George (son of George and Honora), Jane, Oliver and Ellen.

George Archibald (B: 1849 in Ireland) was Hannora/Honora's husband: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-R6B

Hannora (Honora?) Leyden Archibald, (B: 1847 in Feakle, Clare, Ireland) was George's wife: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-R61 (Honora's brother Daniel was six years older than she.) (12-21-13: I wonder if Honora's birth year was 1837 since her younger brother seems to have been born in 1841.)

William Arthur Archibald (son of George and Honora): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-RX9

George Archibald (son of George and Honora): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZDX-RXS

George Archibald (William Wellington's uncle) traveled to the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair (also known as the "Louisiana Purchase Exhibition) with brother William Arthur Archibald (William Wellington Archibald's father). Profits from a bumper green bean crop -- perhaps the only sizable profit they ever made farming --  enabled them to make the trip. George (B: 1875) and William (B: 1874) were 29 and 30 respectively at the time of the Fair. (According to Dad's telling, it was fortuitous that William Arthur and brother George planted their bumper crop of green beans in a year when most other area farmers planted crops other than green beans.)

Returning from the Fair, William Arthur was seriously injured in a train wreck outside Peoria. The tale is told that, in the wake of the wreck, George returned to consciousness to find nothing but corpses in his train car. Unable to find his brother in the car, he eventually found him on top of the toppled locomotive, his leg severely broken. (He limped forevermore.) 

There were so many injured passengers that they were "farmed out" to any family willing to nurse them. William Arthur was taken to the home of Mary Agnes and Catherine Sweeney, a large, very Catholic family which produced a number of nuns and priests. 

Eventually William Arthur married Mary Agnes, although Catherine moved to Rush/Rochester with them. 

I have heard it said that William Arthur was better suited to Catherine - a very sweet person who died unmarried. 

Although Dad only spoke kindly of his mother, Valeria and Virginia (the fraternal twins) -- and Mildred Noll Archibald -- considered Mary Agnes a problematic person. 

The twins were born to a woman around 40 years old. Apparently, Mary Agnes did not want any more children, and never attaching to them in any heartfelt way, it is not surprising that the twins were frank about their remarkable alienation from mother. 

Apparently, Mary Agnes was a spendthrift, and when William Arthur was being taken from his Rochester home to the hospital where he died of pneumonia (in the late 1920s - 1929?)) he handed all his cash money to his teenage twins, encouraging them to make sure it lasted as long as possible.

Remember: We are all products of a lethal train wreck. None of us would be here if that deadly disaster had not occurred. (Isn't it odd to be grateful for a massively lethal accident? Ah, the shades of gray!)

I am reminded of the saying: "It is an evil wind that blows no one good."

                                                                               ***

 "It is an ill wind that blows nobody good."—So, in "3 King Henry VI." (ii. 5), we read—

"Ill blows the wind that profits nobody."

And in "2 Henry IV." (v. 3), when Falstaff asks Pistol "What wind blew you hither?" the latter replies—

"Not the ill wind which blows no man to good."

***

I am appending some old emails to put all genealogical info (as I and nephew Bill understand it) in one place.

Dear Bill,

 

I am delighted to receive your email.

 

It is a trove of information. Profuse thanks.

 

I had no idea we knew the place of Bill's passing. (Or if I knew, I'd forgotten.)

 

Nor did I ever notice that he died on St. Patrick's day. (Do you know the story of St. Patrick's Brigade, also known as los San Patricios? It's a fascinating story - one of two I would like to render dramatically. 

 

"For Americans of the generation who fought the Mexican-American War, the San Patricios were considered traitors. For Mexicans of that generation, and generations to come, the San Patricios were heroes who came to the aid of fellow Catholics in need." (What a great vehicle to probe the nature of treason!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Battalion

 

I may have a copy of Bill's records from the National Archive and will look for them. Should I find them, what is your snail mail address?

 

Have you done any dabbling in online genealogy? With a friend's help, I recently accessed photocopies of federal census records listing names, ages, countries-of-origin and intra-household relationships of several previous generations of Archibald's. I look forward to doing more such research and -- when I get round to it -- will loop you in. 

 

In the meantime, I encourage you to "have at it." 

 

Here's a clue... Gramma, Grampa and I dined with Cheryl and James Bentley when they were here in central North Carolina in the mid-90s - touring the U.S. by bus and passing through Durham at the same time Gramma and Grampa were en route to Florida.

 

At that time, Cheryl put us in touch with relatives who reside in Raleigh, and within days, Mom, Dad and I visited them. These distant relatives were in possession of a family tree that tracked the (Dutch-born) Leyden's back to 1610. (I can't believe I didn't follow-up on our visit before everything got muddled by time. There's a chance I can locate their name and address on an old PC I might fire up...) 

 

If you contact Cheryl, I imagine we can "appropriate" that Leyden family tree.  (Should it prove useful, Cheryl's husband James owned an automobile agency.)

 

Dear Janet,

 

Here's the Bentley information.

 

James and Cheryl Bentley
23 Mac Auley St.
North Rockhampton
Queensland,  Australia 4701
Telephone: 1-61-2-079-288570

 

Cheryl (Leyden) Bentley is the descendant of Daniel Leyden who sailed to Australia with his sister Honora Leyden -- our great-great-grandmother from Feakle, County Clare, Ireland.

 

Upon arrival in Sydney, Daniel and Honora lived with a Presbyterian minister.

 

For unknown reasons, Honora decided to return to Ireland by herself (while Daniel took up permanent residence in Australia).

 

Back in Ireland -- after sailing 25,000 miles; half of it "on her own" -- Honora proceeded to America

 

One of the Archibald ancestors -- I think it was John Archbold - sailed from Ireland to Montrael but did not reside in Canada for any period of time before proceeding to Rush, New York c. 1852.

 

The original Leyden who perches on a branch of our (known) family tree was a mercenary soldier from Holland -- seemingly from the city of Leyden -- who decided to settle out, presumably as a farmer, in County Clare once his fighting days were over.

 

The year 1610 is associated with the "original" Leyden although I do not know if this year denotes his birthdate or perhaps the year he settled/arrived in Ireland.

 

Love

 

Alan

 

On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Bill Archibald wrote:



Good to hear from you Uncle Alan!  Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  

Anyhow, this definitely reminds me that we should do more research on this subject, as most of my research on Uncle Bill's time in the Civil War was done pre-internet.  I remember going to the Rundel Library with Grandpa and looking at the records of all Rochester men in the Civil War (of which an excerpt is linked to below) to attempt to determine some of Bill's battle history. After a brief search of the internet, I came across much more information than we ever had access to when we first performed this research.
 
One of the interesting things about Bill's war service is that he served twice.  His first service was with the 108th New York from July 1862 until December 1862.  
108th New York, Co. D:  July 29, 1862 to discharge due to disability December 8, 1862
http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/reghist/civil/rosters/Infantry/108th_Infantry_CW_Roster.pdf
 
During this time, he would have fought at Antietam.  He narrowly missed the battle of Fredricksburg which occurred December 11 - 15 of 1862.
 
After his discharge, he did not fight again until October of 1863.  Thus, he would not have fought at Gettysburg as previously believed.  Additionally, this is most likely when his brother James may have paid him to take his place in the war, as the Union draft was instituted in the summer of 1863.  I cannot determine if the 1st NY Veteran's Cavalry was entirely volunteer or not.
 
1st NY Veteran's Cavalry, Co. M: October 21, 1863 to his death March 17, 1864
1st NY Veteran's Cavalry Record: http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/reghist/civil/rosters/cavalry/1stCavVetCW_Roster.pdf
Where he was wounded: Cabletown, VA: http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/reghist/civil/cavalry/1stCavVet/1stCavVetTable.htm  Died soon thereafter of infection at the Sandy Hook hospital.
 
Brief description of the Kabletown, VA battle: On March 10 , Lt. Dolly Richards led between 50-60 Confederate raiders into the Shenandoah valley. There, they attacked a Union picket post of the 1st New York Cavalry. A detachment of 25 men of the New York Cavalry, commanded by Maj. Jerry A. Sullivan, were ordered to pursue the Confederates. 


Near Kabletown, the Confederates turned around and attacked the Federals. After Sullivan was killed, the Federal detachment retreated back to their lines.
 
Note that his headstone properly lists him as a member of the 1st New York Cavalry Regiment, Co. M, however, the Monroe County record of his death still shows him as a member of the 108th New York Infantry. 
 
Monroe County Record of his death: http://www.libraryweb.org/rochimag/roads/Civil_War_Dead_of_Monroe_County.pdf

I also remember you having filed a FOIA/National Archive search request for Bill's records.  I do not know where these records ended up, but they are possibly in the mobile down in Florida, as that is where I remember discussing them with you.
 
Anyhow, would be happy to discuss at any point.  I really enjoyed your NPR story competition entry.
 
Also, I very much enjoy the emails that have come across with your takes on the political environment and current events.  I've got a slightly less gloomy look at world politics, although it is clear that America will have to transition to her new role as a player at the world political table rather than the dictator.  I imagine we will be able to negotiate this change similar to how Great Britain went from being the dominant world power to their current role. 
 
See you later,
 
Bill


***
 

Dear Bill,

 

The 1910 Census information for Daisy E Noll at the bottom of this page is from the Mormon website - www.familysearch.org  

 

Grandmother Daisy (nee Green) Noll -- "Mum" as we always called her  -- was my second database inquiry at Family Search, and my first "hit."  https://www.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_1215115005%2Fp_583667822&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%253D

 

Using Family Search, I also had luck with the 1892 Census records for Archibald's living in Rush, New York. A photocopy of that census page is located at https://www.familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Fidgs%3A004370014.004370014_00356&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%253D

 

In the 1892 Census ledger, George (49) and Honora (44) are listed as having nine children living with them. 

 

In descending order of age these children were Walter (20), William (19), Alice (19), George (18), Oliver (15), Ellen (11), Robert (10), Lillie (9) and Sarah (7). 

 

Although Alice follows George in the census taker's handwritten enumeration, she is listed as having the same age as William. This 19 year old William must be William Wellington's father, William Arthur, who - to my knowledge - was not a twin as suggested by sister Alice having the same age.

 

We can deduce from the 1892 Census that William Arthur was born in 1873 - give or take a year.

 

I should locate the genealogy given to my Dad c. 1955 by Cunard Shipping Line steward, Dennis Reid, but for now I'll work from (faulty) memory. 

 

If William Arthur was born in 1873, then he would have been 31 at the time of the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904. 

 

While returning from the Fair with brother George, their train wrecked outside Peoria, Illinois, resulting in a "sickbed" romance with his eventual wife, Mary Agnes Sweeney, whose family had offered to nurse one of the many injured passengers back to health. (As my Dad, William Wellington, told the story -- or, at least, as I remember the telling -- his Dad, William Arthur, broke a leg in the train wreck and walked with a limp forevermore. Dad also reported that there was tremendous carnage in their coach and that when George grew conscious, he could not find brother William, who was eventually located atop the overturned locomotive. You may already know "the story of the peas" but if not, here goes... William and brother George, one year his junior, were "paired off" as bachelor farmers working the same rather unproductive land. The year of the Fair, or perhaps the year before, William and George decided to grow mostly green beans at a time when most other area farmers chose, seemingly by the luck of the draw, to grow very few. It was their only bumper crop. Combined with the relative scarcity of beans in the local marketplace, William and George made a bundle, and being "confirmed bachelors" decided to visit the Fair.)

 

Elsewhere in the 1892 census report for Monroe county, another Archibald household was comprised of 82 year old John Archibald and 84 year old Alice Archibald. These were presumably George's parents - William Arthur's grandparents. 

 

Apparently, I'm incorrect in my memory that Honora married John after sailing back to Ireland from Australia where Honora's brother, Daniel - her traveling companion on the outbound leg from Ireland - decided to stay in Sydney. Instead of my mistaken memory, John and Alice were married and their daughter George married Honora.

 

When Honora and Daniel Leyden arrived in Australia, they initially resided with a Presbyterian minister. A living descendant of Daniel's is Cheryl Bentley. The last address I have for Cheryl is:

 

James and Cheryl Bentley

23 Mac Auley St.

North Rockhampton

Queensland, Australia 4701

1-61-2-079-288570

 

Notably, the four oldest Archibalds -- John, Alice, George and Honora -- were all born in Ireland.

 

Honora Leyden Archibald was born in the town of Feakle, County Clare, in 1848.

 

It is of some interest to note that George Archibald, Honora's husband (not to be confused with their son George) listed his profession as "farmer," whereas John Archbold/Archibald (apparently born in Ireland in 1810) seems to have listed his profession as "laborer." (Part of the word is lost where the page folds into the ledger spine.)

 

There seems to be some evidence that John Archibald was born John Archbold. According to Dad a fairly large number of "Archbolds" either changed their name to Archibald, or -- what I think more likely -- had their surname changed by immigration officials. (Alan here, reviewing this 2010 document in 2012. I now think it more likely that the original spelling was Archbold.)

 

We know for fact that John Archibald/Archbold entered the New World with landfall in Montreal. (I seem to recall that Dennis Reid's genealogy lists John's arrival in 1852.) (Alan continuing his review in 2012. I am now unclear whether John and Allace Archbold arrived by way of Montreal or if Honora did. I am sorry to report that I don't recall if Honora came to America already married or single. Trying to put it together now -- and without Dennis Reid's family tree in hand -- I'm thinking George was John and Alice's child and that Honora came to America to marry George whom she may have known as a girl in Ireland. As I recall the Archbolds' place of origin is a mystery, with Dennis Reid listing a place name like Common or Commyn which can not be located on Irish maps.)

 

We have no reason to believe that John stayed in Montreal, but rather it seems likely that he proceeded to Rush where other Irish kin had already put down roots. 

 

Pax 

 

Alan 

 

PS If I am passing along bad information, please set the record straight. Thanks.

 

·  1910 United States Census Record for Daisy E Green

·  Search collection

Name:

Daisy E Green

Birthplace:

England

Relationship to Head of Household:

Daughter

Residence:

Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York

Marital Status:

Race :

White

Gender:

Female

Immigration Year:

1904

Father's Birthplace:

England

Mother's Birthplace:

England

Family Number:

143

Page Number:

8

 

Household

Gender

Age

Parent

George H Green

M

40y

Parent

Harriett L Green

F

35y

Thomas C Green

M

15y

 

Daisy E Green

F

13y

Lillian L Green

F

9y

Herbert F Green

M

7y

Violet J Green

F

6y

Arthur C Green

M

4y

Fern R Green

F

1y 1m


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Note that Mum (Daisy E Green Noll) immigrated to the United States from London in 1904 (at age 7) . This was the same year that William Arthur Archibald was injured in the train wreck outside Peoria.




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