If your God needs the threat of eternal torture to make us "good people," he may not be a good person either.
Even when a dog "goes bad" and starts biting its master, we humans "put it down."
We don't torture the animal.
Either we accept Scripture "literally," which is an impossbility.
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Or, we try to make loving, non-cruel sense of it.
There is no doubt the bible is a Wisdom Book and has much to teach us.
But it is flat-out wrong to use the bible to justify cruelty.
The Normalization Of Cruelty During Donald Trump's Administration: A Compendium (Updated July 6, 2025)
You have backed yourself into a "biblical corner" Karen, since you now have no choice but to believe in cruelty.
Signing off on the intrinsic cruelty of Hell as a place of eternal torment without possibility of reform or redemption is necessary for YOU to have the Salvation Assurance your self-seeking ego needs.
Go ahead.
Yearn for human beings to go to Hell.
But don't say, "My God -- the one, true God -- is offering me this prize while he has deliberately designed a Universe in which most other human beings experience eternal torment."
By a literal reading of Revelation, only 144,000 human souls will be saved.
There's a terrified little girl inside you, who in some weird way must make herself co-equal with God, endowed with God's purported infallibility.
Like it or not, Karen, God is an inscrutable mystery, "The Mysterium Magnum."
Yes, we have "clues," but we do not have certainty.
If we decide that we want to "believe" in CERTAINTY (and consequently our own infallibility), then we must also believe that most of our deceased relatives are currently in Hell, experiencing eternal torment.
Or, they soon will be.
You worship a God who deliberately created a Universe in which most of your ancestors, relatives and descendants are in Hell , or headed there.
Damn!
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There is NO evidence against them, at least not of the necessarily damning kind you allege.
None.
Show me a shred of evidence that the Clintons are the monsters you say. (Of course, you've got no evidence, because there is none, and so you won't respond to this request. But you will continue to God-damn them because you need them to be damned in order to build your case that YOU are saved.)
Not even Marjorie Taylor Greene pretends there is any evidence against the Clintons.
Here, learn something. (You can learn a lot just by thinking.)
If Marjorie Taylor Greene would betray her "beloved" Donald because she HAD evidence, why would she not rat out the Clintons if she had evidence? (Shall we save your beloved Candace Jones for another day?)
You don't use any epistemological rules, Karen.
Whatever you want to believe is true, you declare to be true. At least for the moment that you want (or need) it to be true.
The world would fall entirely apart -- it would collapse in ash and dust -- if your criteria for "The True" were applied to Science.
Are you solipsistic enough to think that you - and only you - know what's true? And why can you not be generous enough to admit that you you don't know enough to damn people to Hell.
And just how do you know the following meme isn't true? And that you are among the deceived (which you are)?
The above meme doesn't HAVE to be true.
But how do YOU KNOW it's not?
And how do you know YOU haven't been suckered?
The evidence is mounting.
You make it all up, Karen.
Or, to say the least, much of what you believe to be absolutely true is fabricated to suit your ideology.
You are not a Christian, Karen, as much as you are a "Know Nothing" Nationalist, drunk on political power. (You would NEVER see Jesus waving a flag!)
And now that you see your party going down the tubes, you pretend it doesn't matter.
Suddenly, you want ot "leave everything in the hands of God," feigning humility every step of the way. (Meanwhile, you make God-damn sure that Hillary and Bill are punished - up to and including roasting eternally in the Lake of Unquenchable Fire... when you have NO proof -- not even a shred of evidence -- that they are guilty of the crimes you allege. https://share.google/
Let's do a review...
Remember The Storm?
Seven years ago, you were ABSOLUTELTY CERTAIN Trump's Storm would purge all the Democratic evil doers - before Trump left office.
It never happened.
Nothing happened.
Remember your prediction about John Kennedy Jr's imminent appearance on the National Mall, and how he and Trump were going to announce their Common Cause and "bring the world together?"
Nothing came of it.
Nothing.
And then we have the leitmotif of our former conversation, an issue so frightening to you that you wouldn't even address it.
"The Love Of Money Is The Root Of All Evil" - An Open Invitation To Christian Conservatives
You're barking up the wrong tree, Karen.
And you got to the point where you were so cowardly that you could no longer tolerate me posting on your Facebook page.
You pretend to be a True Patriot.
But isn't Freedom of Speech a fundamental -- even an All-American -- freedom? (Even Antonin Scalia, the archetypal Supreme Court Justice defended protesters burning the American flag on First Amendment grounds.)
Why silence someone?
Especially a guy who tells you more truth in every email I send than "all the truth" you have gleaned in all your interactions with fellow QAnonsense cultists.
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DON'T MISS THIS!
SNOPES: Yes, it is true that Trump's former 'spiritual adviser' was released after 6 months in jail for child sex abuse.
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Pat Buchanan, The Republican Presidential Candidate And Living American Who Has Served Longest As Senior White House Official, Says Republicans Are In It For "Power Only" And "To Hell With Principles"
Here's where American conservatives ran off the rails.
"There are two ways of lying, as there are two ways of deceiving customers. If the scale registers 15 ounces, you can say: 'It's a pound.' Your lie will remain relative to an invariable measure of the true. If customers check it, they can see that they are being robbed, and you know by how much you are robbing them: a truth remains as a judge between you. But if the demon induces you to tamper with the scale itself, it is "the criterion of the true" which is denatured, there is no longer any possible control. And little by little you will forget that you are cheating." Denis de Rougemont's "Love in the Western World," published January 1, 1956
Short form of Rev. James Talarico's Sermon Against Christian Nationalism
Long Form of Rev. Talarico's Sermon Against Christian Nationalism As A Betrayal Of Jesus of Nazareth
You claim "there are things beyond our control" so that you don't have to struggle - every day - to make the world a better place.
Yes, many things are beyond our control.
But we need to do good continually - especially to our enemies.
Again, I ask you, "What are your 3 favorite verses from the New Testament?"
Not the Old Testament.
The New Testament.
The Woe Passagesaddressed to the Pharisees and the Scribes
Hmm.
Doesn't seem to count...
"There are two ways of lying, as there are two ways of deceiving customers. If the scale registers 15 ounces, you can say: 'It's a pound.' Your lie will remain relative to an invariable measure of the true. If customers check it, they can see that they are being robbed, and you know by how much you are robbing them: a truth remains as a judge between you. But if the demon induces you to tamper with the scale itself, it is "the criterion of the true" which is denatured, there is no longer any possible control. And little by little you will forget that you are cheating." Denis de Rougemont's "Love in the Western World," published January 1, 1956
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